Posts by Pete Zahut

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WT predicting smartphones back in the 20s?

by paradiseseeker in

jw
friends

i've come across a jw friendly article about watchtower predicting smartphones in the 20s.. .

of course, in the comments section there are a lot of jws freaking out saying "there is no doubt that this is the only true organization!

", "thanks jehovah that used his faithful and discreet slave to tell us some useful information about the future!

Pete Zahut

The modern technologies we now enjoy were thought of long before most of us were born. Anyone reading popular science type magazines back then would have known about things like this. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/10/tesla-quotes_n_7771358.html

I find it ironic, that while predicting the nearness of the end of the world in their own magazines, the folks at the Watchtower were simultaneously using information from "worldly" sources, to tout the availability of modern technologies they'd be using in the ministry, in a future that wasn't supposed to come about.

(P.S. Is it me or does the guy in the drawing look like a young Ronald Regan?)

35

The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

Pete Zahut

When making a big change in your life, they say to allow 1 month for ever\y year that you were involved in the activity that is no longer part of your life. For instance, if you were at a job 10 years, you'd need to allow 10 months for that period of your life to be behind you so that it no longer has any bearing on your current life. So after 31 years of being "in" it may take you a little over 2.5 years to get over it.

Most people view the JW religion as being fanatical or cult-like. If you are having obsessive thoughts about JW's it's because you/we were systematically "indoctrinated" or "inculcated" as they like to call it.

As with all obsessive thoughts, you'll need to train yourself to get them under control. It might be a good idea to set aside a time each day where you allow yourself to think about JW related matters. Each time you have an unwanted JW argument in your head during the day, you can remind yourself that you're only allowed to think about those things during your designated time of day. Later, at that designated time, jot the topic down in a notebook and include your counter argument and then put it aside. That way these thoughts will have had a conclusion, rather than circling around in your mind, further ingraining them into your subconscious. Close the note book and say out loud or to yourself, " I have control of my thoughts and I decide what I'm going to think about". You can also make this (or something similar) a "Mantra" that you use during the day when you catch yourself thinking unwanted thoughts.

Eventually this healthy habit will replace the unhealthy one you've fallen into. that of obsessively thinking of all things JW. as they randomly enter your head. Eventually you'll be able to dismiss these and other unwanted thoughts from you mind as they arise.

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My Boyfriend's Family Wants to Meet Mine (My Parent's are JWs) Help!

by LaurenM in

so i have been "faded" for approximately 2.5 years.

my parents know i haven't attended a meeting in quite some time, but don't know that i have been dating a guy for about eight months.

we really love each other and his family is super sweet.

Pete Zahut

I don’t know your age or the circumstances but I am curious as to why your boyfriend’s parents want or need to meet your parents when you aren’t even engaged. I could understand your boyfriend wanting to meet your parents himself, but I’m not sure why his parents need to meet yours at this time. especially since their son hasn’t even met your parents yet.

You could tell your boyfriend’s family that you’ll introduce your parents to them sometime in the future when your relationship has progressed to that point or you could simply explain the situation to them and tell them that your parents are lovely people but they are involved in a very strict religious organization that prohibits dating outside the religion and it would complicate things for you right now if you were to meet them at this point.

Perhaps you could show them a few photos of your family and your self with them so they get the idea and perhaps that will be enough for them for now .

33

Snake In My Fridge

by finallysomepride in

i just now went to get meat from my fridge to cook, took the meat out & shut the door as i shut the door i thought i saw a piece of rope in the six pack i had just opened & had removed 2 cans, already drunk 1.. open the door again & there i saw what i thought was a piece of rope, but i look a bit closer ...... shit it's a friggin snake, bugger i had only just taken two cans out wtf.. .

Pete Zahut

My guess is that it had probably crawled in the cardboard packaging while it was still at the cannery or enroute to the store and the cold kept it stunned or too sluggish to move or need any nourishment. Sort of like suspended animation.

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How do you deal with "toppers"? [one upmanship]

by compound complex in

jw
friends

when in conversion, you sometimes get carried away and the talk becomes all about you.. then, you remember you're in a conversation, say you're sorry, and allow the other person to talk.

she goes on about what's happening in her life, you listen and ask some questions.

she tells you more and then shifts the dialogue back to you.

Pete Zahut

One uppers and know-it-alls are are particularly annoying to to those of us who actually have done everything and truly do know everything.

One uppers come across as thinking they are better than you but in reality you need to be patient with them because they don't think they are better than you at all. In fact, they view you as someone who is higher up on the imaginary social ladder and who is worthy of impressing.

There's a guy at work like that, no matter what you say, if hasn't done it better himself, he knows someone who has .

Him: Oh, I never check luggage when I travel....it's strictly carry on for me.

I usually make some sort of joke out of what he's saying and once he sees I couldn't give two rat's asses about anything like that, he backs off.

Me: Me too, I usually stuff everything into a black garbage bag and drag it on the plane with me.

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"To whom do you belong?"

by stuckinarut2 in

prompted by one of our fellow posters- jrjw who started a thread asking how to remove "kingdom melodies" from our head, this song title came to mind!

(sorry for the earworm everyone😉).

it got me thinking.

Pete Zahut

It's crazy the things you can remember all these years later.

Let's watch how we walk and watch how we talk,

that thus we may be alert and wise,

buying out the opportune time, since this world in Satan lies,

yes watch watch how we walk and watch how we talk that thus we may be alert and wise.

Let's watch were we preach and watch where we teach,

Encourage meek ones to take their stand,

by our bible studies with them,

Give them all a helping hand,

Let's watch how we greet and watch how we treat,

all those we meet in our ministry,

Like Christ Jesus our fine shepherd,

Care for his sheep lovingly,

Yes watch how we greet and watch how we treat,

and stumble none in our ministry.

When I was a kid my brother and I used to alter the kingdom songs. :

"Lets watch where we schlep and watch where we step, there's dog crap out in our ministreee"

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Homes for GB in Tuxido NY

by dogisgod in

i was surprised that there are half (or more) million dollar estates the gb lives in.

gated communities.

close to the warwick site.

Pete Zahut

Seriously, why criticise GBs use of Business Class? Anyone who has to fly long distances on a regular basis as part of their work will appreciate the need to avoid Economy Class where leg room is very limited and sleep is difficult

I agree Steve but the irony of it is that most JW's because of their limited education and the admonition to put making a living second to all things JW, are unable to enjoy such comforts or have jobs where such comforts are offered. The GB are living and traveling on the donations that JW's with meager lifestyles are donating. They do without such thing in their own lives so that these servants of God can live like executives.

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Pillowgate - John Cedars

by CitizenofEarth in

is this true?

is this really true?!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.

Pete Zahut

This video was likely part of the many cost saving measures we've seen taking place at Bethel. Someone in accounting noticed that the washing machines in the laundry were wearing prematurely. It was discovered this was due to a high number of Bethelites sneaking into the laundry after hours and setting the machines on the "spin" cycle.

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You or Family at Uni? Bye bye Ministerial Servants Position

by snugglebunny in

kingdom ministry school.

2018 service year.

programme for congregation elders: file:///c:/users/michael/downloads/kms-tk18-e_no8.pdf.

Pete Zahut

I've had so many JW's tell me that the "Society" doesn't really come out and say that University education is wrong.

It will be nice to print out this letter and have it on hand to show them that their Governing Body considers viewing pornography and getting a University education as being equally offensive.

I'm thinking of showing this to the folks that stand by the cart outside my office building on Thursdays. On second thought, I think I'll print it out and highlight the sentences pertaining to Porn & University and tape it to the wall they stand in front of so that they see it without knowing who put it there.

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What do I do ?

by jdash in

hey guys, this is my first time posting on here but lets get started.. so i'm a 17 year old boy who currently attends meetings at a congregation in indianapolis.

i live with my grandparents, on my father's side, because my mother died in 2010. i been attending meetings since i was 10. my mother got into the religion but then got disfellowshiped.

my dad is on and off, he currently just got reinstated.

Pete Zahut

You indicate that you are forced into going in service because you are a minor yet you feel it would be possible at this time for you to send in a disassociation/resignation letter. If it's possible for you to formally resign, why wouldn't it be possible for you to fade out and eventually stop going in service and to meetings without having to send in a letter and risk losing your friends and family members?